Do you still think I'm nuts?

Gonzo

Infinitesimally Outrageous
Staff member
all the bitching I do about our government, most of you probably think I'm a little goofy. Well, so do I usually. But, there are reasons to question how far it can be allowed to go...

March 25, 2002 Judge Imposes Smoking Ban on Mother
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

NEW YORK (AP) -- A judge has ordered a smoker to stop lighting up at home or in her car if she wants continued visitation rights with her 13-year-old son who has complained about her pack-a-day habit.

Justice Robert Julian, of Utica, issued the ban although the youth is not allergic to tobacco smoke and doesn't suffer from a health condition, such as asthma, that would be worsened by it.

Citing studies showing the health dangers of secondhand smoke, the judge's 22-page decision issued Friday said the mother's puffing was not in the boy's ``best interests.''

Where the child's health is involved, the judge said, the court would intervene, even if it meant overriding the parents' religious beliefs.

The woman was identified in court papers as Johnita D., 39. The boy lives in Rome, in upstate New York, with his father and his paternal grandparents, none of whom smoke.

The mother's lawyer, Joan Shkane, denounced the ruling as intrusive. Shkane said she didn't know if they would appeal.

``Are we opening the door to urine tests now?'' Shkane remarked. ``Will he be allowed to take air samples before the child visits?''

Nicholas' law guardian, William Koslosky, of Utica, said the teen is in excellent health, but told him last August that he didn't want to visit his mother because she smokes.

``Nicholas was ashamed that his mother was a smoker,'' the lawyer said. ``He said his mother's house reeked.''

Shkane and the child's mother claim the father and paternal grandparents are behind his smoking complaints.


My first question to the judge would've been-"ok, when exactly will you be taking over my monthly payments?
 
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s4

Guest
Can't blame the kid for not wanting her lung cancer that she either has or will have.
 

fury

Administrator
Staff member
I have to agree with s4. The smell of smoke is quite nasty, especially if you're used to breathing air. If you prefer breathing oxygen instead of urea, cyanide, ammonia, tar, etc., you have every right to refuse to enter a house filled with it.
 

flavio

superfly
Staff member
Blah...what a load of crap. Yeah, the mother should quit smoking around her kid, but the government doesn't have the right to tell people whether they can smoke in their own home.
 

Gonzo

Infinitesimally Outrageous
Staff member
Thanks Flavio, I was beginning to think everybody else was crazy for missing the point
 

HomeLAN

Bumbling Idiot
Staff member
Gonz, I think you're nuts for reasons other then your posts about the government. :p

This one is insane, though. I have a kid, I smoke, and I always take it outside. However, the courts have no right to order me to do that.
 

Gonzo

Infinitesimally Outrageous
Staff member
as long as you think I'm nuts, the 'zact reasoning isn't important:laugh:
 
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